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: Well, in the interest of uniformity I decided it should be one way or the other... the names in URLs or the names given as the official list name for Yahoo purposes. Not a mix. Thing is, there are a number of lists whose yahoo address includes things that are not typically part of the name they are commonly referred to by. The Elenari list, for instance, though I haven't added it yet. Nobody calls it Elenari-l. I don't think anyone actually calls the Oklahoma Furs, Therians, and Otherkin list okfursii either... though I think it's commonly shortened to just OK Furs. And the TriState Otherkin (NY, NJ, CT) mailing list is just NYkin in the url, which would be extremely misleading for searchers. I think there's more benefit in using the official title than the url, overall. [[User:Jarandhel|Jarandhel]] ([[User talk:Jarandhel|talk]]) 21:31, 30 May 2012 (PDT) |
: Well, in the interest of uniformity I decided it should be one way or the other... the names in URLs or the names given as the official list name for Yahoo purposes. Not a mix. Thing is, there are a number of lists whose yahoo address includes things that are not typically part of the name they are commonly referred to by. The Elenari list, for instance, though I haven't added it yet. Nobody calls it Elenari-l. I don't think anyone actually calls the Oklahoma Furs, Therians, and Otherkin list okfursii either... though I think it's commonly shortened to just OK Furs. And the TriState Otherkin (NY, NJ, CT) mailing list is just NYkin in the url, which would be extremely misleading for searchers. I think there's more benefit in using the official title than the url, overall. [[User:Jarandhel|Jarandhel]] ([[User talk:Jarandhel|talk]]) 21:31, 30 May 2012 (PDT) |
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:: By the same token there are lists where the title is not typically the name they are referred to by. Nobody calls WestKin "West USA Otherkin"... we call it Westkin. It's just that the box is required to be filled in and having it repeat the listname looks kind of silly. I suppose I do understand the desire to pick one naming scheme or the other for uniformity -- but in that case why suppress the redirect? --[[User:Arethinn|Arethinn]] ([[User talk:Arethinn|talk]]) 21:44, 30 May 2012 (PDT) |
:: By the same token there are lists where the title is not typically the name they are referred to by. Nobody calls WestKin "West USA Otherkin"... we call it Westkin. It's just that the box is required to be filled in and having it repeat the listname looks kind of silly. I suppose I do understand the desire to pick one naming scheme or the other for uniformity -- but in that case why suppress the redirect? --[[User:Arethinn|Arethinn]] ([[User talk:Arethinn|talk]]) 21:44, 30 May 2012 (PDT) |
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::: Actually, so far, WestKin is the only list I've found that uses the title that way. Usually the title is the title of the list. That's what it's referred to as in setup, with the other field specifying url rather than "name". As for the redirect, I really didn't see any reason why people would need a redirect from westkin. (Or a redirect to tricities otherkin from nykin, etc.) I don't believe I prevented anyone from making one, if you really feel it's necessary, I just saw no reason to add one myself. Most of the people looking at lists on this site aren't searching for ones they already know about, they're trying to find new ones. And a search would still have brought them to the same page based on the presence of the url in its text. [[User:Jarandhel|Jarandhel]] ([[User talk:Jarandhel|talk]]) 12:22, 2 June 2012 (PDT) |
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Why was the decision made to delete the page that was actually named after the list? And to suppress the redirect, at that (which seems very unhelpful to me)? (edited to add:) Yeah, I dunno about naming the wiki pages after the "title" of the group... I think it's clearer to have them be named after the group name from the URL (at least when it comes to Yahoo). They should be named after the most common way to refer to the list/resource. --Arethinn (talk) 18:32, 29 May 2012 (PDT)
- Well, in the interest of uniformity I decided it should be one way or the other... the names in URLs or the names given as the official list name for Yahoo purposes. Not a mix. Thing is, there are a number of lists whose yahoo address includes things that are not typically part of the name they are commonly referred to by. The Elenari list, for instance, though I haven't added it yet. Nobody calls it Elenari-l. I don't think anyone actually calls the Oklahoma Furs, Therians, and Otherkin list okfursii either... though I think it's commonly shortened to just OK Furs. And the TriState Otherkin (NY, NJ, CT) mailing list is just NYkin in the url, which would be extremely misleading for searchers. I think there's more benefit in using the official title than the url, overall. Jarandhel (talk) 21:31, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
- By the same token there are lists where the title is not typically the name they are referred to by. Nobody calls WestKin "West USA Otherkin"... we call it Westkin. It's just that the box is required to be filled in and having it repeat the listname looks kind of silly. I suppose I do understand the desire to pick one naming scheme or the other for uniformity -- but in that case why suppress the redirect? --Arethinn (talk) 21:44, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
- Actually, so far, WestKin is the only list I've found that uses the title that way. Usually the title is the title of the list. That's what it's referred to as in setup, with the other field specifying url rather than "name". As for the redirect, I really didn't see any reason why people would need a redirect from westkin. (Or a redirect to tricities otherkin from nykin, etc.) I don't believe I prevented anyone from making one, if you really feel it's necessary, I just saw no reason to add one myself. Most of the people looking at lists on this site aren't searching for ones they already know about, they're trying to find new ones. And a search would still have brought them to the same page based on the presence of the url in its text. Jarandhel (talk) 12:22, 2 June 2012 (PDT)
- By the same token there are lists where the title is not typically the name they are referred to by. Nobody calls WestKin "West USA Otherkin"... we call it Westkin. It's just that the box is required to be filled in and having it repeat the listname looks kind of silly. I suppose I do understand the desire to pick one naming scheme or the other for uniformity -- but in that case why suppress the redirect? --Arethinn (talk) 21:44, 30 May 2012 (PDT)