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		<title>Jarandhel: /* Controversy */</title>
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		<updated>2022-01-09T02:10:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Controversy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 22:10, 8 January 2022&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: I used the &quot;Controversy&quot; label just because it&#039;d seemed to be the most consistently used label across the wiki for what I was talking about-- &quot;criticism&quot; seems like a fairly neutral replacement term, if it&#039;d be preferred. Though I suppose it&#039;s well worth pointing out that technically Therian Guide isn&#039;t the only forum to take issue with this policy, their moderation team is just the only one who has said so outright and publicly; I also know that administration on the Werelist and I believe Otherkin Phenomena has issue with the policy as well. It&#039;s in a bit of a strange place where several notable established/older members of the community seem to take issue with it, which I think is worth including, but also that a majority of its userbase and the active otherkin and alterhuman communities don&#039;t consider it controversial. If not criticism, maybe critique? Maybe &quot;Outside Commentary&quot;? ---- [[User:Who-is-Page|Who-is-Page]] ([[User talk:Who-is-Page|talk]]) 12:42, 8 January 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: I used the &quot;Controversy&quot; label just because it&#039;d seemed to be the most consistently used label across the wiki for what I was talking about-- &quot;criticism&quot; seems like a fairly neutral replacement term, if it&#039;d be preferred. Though I suppose it&#039;s well worth pointing out that technically Therian Guide isn&#039;t the only forum to take issue with this policy, their moderation team is just the only one who has said so outright and publicly; I also know that administration on the Werelist and I believe Otherkin Phenomena has issue with the policy as well. It&#039;s in a bit of a strange place where several notable established/older members of the community seem to take issue with it, which I think is worth including, but also that a majority of its userbase and the active otherkin and alterhuman communities don&#039;t consider it controversial. If not criticism, maybe critique? Maybe &quot;Outside Commentary&quot;? ---- [[User:Who-is-Page|Who-is-Page]] ([[User talk:Who-is-Page|talk]]) 12:42, 8 January 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:: I think criticism, outside commentary, or even opposition might work.  And I may go back and review the other places controversy has been used in the wiki to see if any of those would be more appropriate.  I&#039;m surprised that the criticism is so widespread, I&#039;d have thought it was just Therian Guide.  It&#039;s unfortunate that the others have not made documentable public statements of their position. Having that be a matter of public record might be helpful in promoting positive change in the community by putting pressure on those established/older members rather than the other way around.  ---- [[User:Jarandhel|Jarandhel]] ([[User_talk:Jarandhel|talk]]) 21:10, 8 January 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<author><name>Jarandhel</name></author>
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		<title>Who-is-Page: /* Controversy */</title>
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		<updated>2022-01-08T17:42:19Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Controversy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 13:42, 8 January 2022&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Is this the best label for this section, since the source of the criticism is itself a highly controversial one?  I&#039;m worried that implying there is widespread controversy surrounding this site is giving The Therian Guide&#039;s fringe position undue weight.  Though I do think their position on the subject is valuable to document.  Would &quot;criticism&quot; be a more neutral section heading?  Or something else entirely?  ---- [[User:Jarandhel|Jarandhel]] ([[User_talk:Jarandhel|talk]]) 08:01, 7 January 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Is this the best label for this section, since the source of the criticism is itself a highly controversial one?  I&#039;m worried that implying there is widespread controversy surrounding this site is giving The Therian Guide&#039;s fringe position undue weight.  Though I do think their position on the subject is valuable to document.  Would &quot;criticism&quot; be a more neutral section heading?  Or something else entirely?  ---- [[User:Jarandhel|Jarandhel]] ([[User_talk:Jarandhel|talk]]) 08:01, 7 January 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: I used the &quot;Controversy&quot; label just because it&#039;d seemed to be the most consistently used label across the wiki for what I was talking about-- &quot;criticism&quot; seems like a fairly neutral replacement term, if it&#039;d be preferred. Though I suppose it&#039;s well worth pointing out that technically Therian Guide isn&#039;t the only forum to take issue with this policy, their moderation team is just the only one who has said so outright and publicly; I also know that administration on the Werelist and I believe Otherkin Phenomena has issue with the policy as well. It&#039;s in a bit of a strange place where several notable established/older members of the community seem to take issue with it, which I think is worth including, but also that a majority of its userbase and the active otherkin and alterhuman communities don&#039;t consider it controversial. If not criticism, maybe critique? Maybe &quot;Outside Commentary&quot;? ---- [[User:Who-is-Page|Who-is-Page]] ([[User talk:Who-is-Page|talk]]) 12:42, 8 January 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<author><name>Who-is-Page</name></author>
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		<title>Jarandhel: Controversy?</title>
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		<updated>2022-01-07T13:01:39Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Controversy?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;===== Controversy =====&lt;br /&gt;
Is this the best label for this section, since the source of the criticism is itself a highly controversial one?  I&amp;#039;m worried that implying there is widespread controversy surrounding this site is giving The Therian Guide&amp;#039;s fringe position undue weight.  Though I do think their position on the subject is valuable to document.  Would &amp;quot;criticism&amp;quot; be a more neutral section heading?  Or something else entirely?  ---- [[User:Jarandhel|Jarandhel]] ([[User_talk:Jarandhel|talk]]) 08:01, 7 January 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jarandhel</name></author>
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